[Carfreeliving] Re: Home Depot and Bayshore Blvd bikeway

Wed Jul 27 13:34:29 MDT 2005

Paint's cheap.  Concrete boarding islands aren't that expensive.  Why not propose a combination of center bus only lanes and bike lanes?  Sure, this means less auto capacity, but there's a freeway right there.  Auto parking along the side of the street can go, if that's the tradeoff - most businesses along Bayshore have their own parking, and Home Depot certainly will.

If we don't get at least the right-of-way for BRT now, we'll never get it.

Andrew

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:11:00 -0700 Mike Sallaberry wrote:Couple thoughts off the top of my head:

1) The median work for bike lanes is pretty easy.  Maybe asking for BRT 

treatments or a complete street along Bayshore at this point makes the 

entire request too big and more easily rejectable.  Then we end up with 

nothing more than their initial proposal.

2) The right of way that could be obtained by setting Home Depot back x 

feet from their property line may be for naught if other properties along 

the street are built up to their property lines.

I whole heartedly support BRT.  I think that is the way to go as rail is 

too expensive and inflexible.  I just don't know if this is the best time 

and place to ask for BRT style treatments or a complete rebuild of the 

street.

A more discreet BRT type request could be for transit priority to be 

incorporated into any new signals they install.

Mike

"Dan Krause"  

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RE: [Carfreeliving] Re: Home Depot and Bayshore Blvd bikeway

Hi Folks,

We need to be thinking about transit on this section of Bayshore as well. 

The heavily used #9 bus runs through here and is already slowed 

significantly from traffic at certain times of the day.  Rescue Muni feels 

that BRT is an appropriate treatment here.  Many transit-dependent people 

rely on the #9 and without BRT improvements, there lives are going to just 

get much worse after Home Depot opens. 

We should all sit down very soon and figure out if this can become a 

"Complete Street".   We must not preclude transit lanes here and it would 

be fabulous if Home Depot could pay for a complete streets treatment. They 

damn well should because it is going to be a cash cow for them and they 

are going inundate the the street with traffic.  The street width is very 

wide on Bayshore so it may work out for everybody.   Home Depot needs to 

be designed in a way that doesn't constrain the width of the road. 

______________________________

Dan Krause

Managing Director, Rescue Muni

105 San Jose Ave.

San Francisco, CA  94110

415/826-1219 (p)   415/826-3362 (f)

dankrause at rescuemuni.org

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[mailto:Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dodge

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:25 AM

To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org

Subject: [Carfreeliving] Re: Home Depot and Bayshore Blvd bikeway

Thanks for that idea Mike.  I work at Bernal Heights Neighborhood Center, 

so yes, am involved in this one.  BTW, for anyone interested in going to 

the Planning Commish tomorrow, the meeting does start at 1pm but this item 

is not scheduled until 6 pm - 

http://www.sfgov.org/site/planning_page.asp?id=33460

Shannon

PS whatever happened to alt-trans happy hour? 

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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:15:14 -0700

From: Mike Sallaberry 

Subject: [Carfreeliving] Home Depot and Bayshore Blvd bikeway

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On this project, one possible mitigation for the traffic impacts of Home 

Depot could be for them to pay for (or do the work for) the median shaving 

necessary to stripe a northbound bike lane on Bayshore from Industrial to 

Jerrold. DPT mentioned the idea to them but I believe they said their 

project area was limited, or something like that. I think it would be a 

good way for them to build up some goodwill with the community, and in the 

whole scheme of things, it will not cost them that much, especially since 

they are already doing some concrete/asphalt/signal work near the entrance 

on Bayshore. Too bad they didn't take the opportunity to be more 

proactive.

The southbound route here is on Barneveld/Loomis, so for this section of 

Bayshore, the median shaving and northbound bike lane would take care of a 

big chunk of what we need on Bayshore. With the Oakdale bike lanes 

recently extended, this is a good chance to continue filling in the gaps 

in the area.

Anyone involved with the Home Depot effort? I think if enough people ask 

for this, there is a chance they'll do it.

Mike

** Thursday, July 28th **

BAYSHORE HOME DEPOT - PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING

1 pm, City Hall, Rm 400*

The proposed Home Depot on Bayshore (site of the old Goodman's Lumber and 

Whole Earth Access) will have a dramatic impact on traffic and could 

affect bike lanes on Bayshore. This Planning Commission meeting will be 

the final review and action on the project -- be sure to come out and help 

push for the best outcome for biking on Bayshore.

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