[Carfreeliving] scooters - fun to ride but...

Brinkman, Cheryl Cheryl.Brinkman at McKesson.com
Mon Oct 24 10:12:50 MDT 2005


so it's as wash? they burn less gasoline, but for each gallon burned
they emit more pollutants.  Only benefit is the user saving money.
 
I wish the guy in Texas had gone with his first inclination and gotten a
bicycle.  Now that would have made an interesting story.
 
 



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From: Bert Hill [mailto:echill at sfhills.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:11 AM
To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
Subject: Re: [Carfreeliving] scooters - fun to ride but...



Same thing.  I haven't read up lately, but I think converters and other
equipment are not mandated on new motorcycles until 2007.  You can look
it up on the California Air Resources Board website.

Bert

 


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From: Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org
[mailto:Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org] On Behalf Of David Baker
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 8:02 AM
To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
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what about motorcycles?

 


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From: Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org
[mailto:Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org] On Behalf Of Bert Hill
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:58 AM
To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
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Nearly all scooters pollute at up to 15x the rate of automobiles.
Unless they are fitted with catalytic converters and other emissions
control equipment, they contribute heavily to negative health effects.
Battery technology is improving, to the point that electric scooters can
be used reliably for in-city commutes reliably.

Bert

 


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From: Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org
[mailto:Carfreeliving-bounces at livablecity.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Sallaberry
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Carfreeliving at livablecity.org
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Kinda cute story about a Texas dude who trades in his pickup for a
scooter.  We have a lot of scooters and motos here in SF relative to
most US towns, but I often wonder why scooters are not more popular.
Not that I necessarily want a lot of them near me as I'm cycling...at
least cars are big plodding creatures that are slow to change direction
and are pretty predictable.  Scooters are more of a hazard, in my book.
Still, they make a lot of sense for people who don't want to give up
motoring but deep down hate their cars, and could serve as a transition
tool for folks who may eventually give up the scooter for a bicycle. 
Mike 

Here's the article 
-> "When gas got to $1.90, I started thinking about an alternative. 
Half-jokingly and half-seriously, I told my wife (Beth), 'When the 
price hits $2, I'm going to buy a bicycle.' Everything I do is within 
three miles of the house. The last time I filled up the Ranger, it was 
$50. I looked over at the guy next to me with an Escalade (SUV), and he 
was over $100 and still going. I said, 'This is ridiculous.'..."
-- Micky Shearon, Hood County, TX
http://www.hcnews.com/news/get-news.asp?id=11041&catid=1&cpg=get-news.as
p

Michael Sallaberry, P.E.
Associate Transportation Engineer
San Francisco Department of Parking and Traffic
25 Van Ness Avenue, Suite 345
San Francisco, CA 94102
(415) 554 2351
(415) 554 2352 (fax)
Bicycle Hotline (415) 585-BIKE
http://www.bicycle.sfgov.org

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